BB: TV animation with really tight budgets and deadlines-I mean really tight. Way more tight than at Disney. I elected to do really quick animation of really good ideas. I'd written two episodes for Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories, and one of them-"Family Dog"-I got to direct. That brought me to the attention of the people on The Simpsons, and I worked on the first eight seasons.
BB: It was. A lot of people didn't think there was a possibility of an animated show aimed at adults competing in prime time. [Simpsons executive producer] Jim Brooks basically acts as a titanium shield that a lot of bad decision making bounces off of. Pixar has the same thing. There is this force field over this place held up by its success-it's a very protected environment to grow a movie in. All of the best experiences I've had have been in the shadow of 800-pound gorillas like Jim, with the exception of Iron Giant, where I didn't have any gorillas to protect me.
BB: It was a project that Warner Bros. was developing but not getting anywhere, and I pitched setting the book in 1957, the height of Sputnik and all the paranoia. That was an instance where I had freedom only because they weren't paying attention. They were shutting down the division as I was making the film, so as long as we stayed on budget, they didn't interfere. But when it got the highest test scores that Warner Bros. had had in 20 years, they had laid no groundwork for anyone to know about it.
BB: Show business is basically designed to discourage anyone who dares attempt to enter it. You have to just keep going with it. You have to ignore any kind of rational thinking, like the odds. Don't look at the odds. Don't look at theory. You can teach yourself how to draw. There are more ways to learn animation now than there ever were before, because you can buy DVDs and run them one frame at a time, and they're cheap. When I was a kid you had to go to the movies and watch it straight through and hope that you could pick stuff up on the run.
BB: Yeah, the small-minded managers. Oftentimes the people at the top are really fun and the people on your way up are really fun, but there's something about a lot of middle managers-people that don't have the power to say yes but do have the power to say no. The ones who are just sitting there and making sure the paper clips are clipped on at a certain angle." The Incredibles is my current bible on how to produce an action/drama film.
